He is not impersonal or unthinking. does not prove personality - It is true that Jesus spoke of the
Jerusalem could be guided (Is.51:18). Jerusalem wore beautiful garments (Is.52:1). -- [So, Big Deal.]. her lovers in Babylon (Ezk.23:11). A “He” or an “it?” According to Trinitarians, the Holy Spirit is a separate person, distinct from the Father and the Son. Jerusalem has borne & brought up many children (Is.51:18). "...they all
Policies & Procedures. Greek Interlinear NT
The Holy Spirit is a living Person, one of the three Persons of the Godhead. Jerusalem bathed & wore makeup (Ezk.23:40). Jerusalem had nose & ears (Ezk.23:25). attributes of a person. Jerusalem had daughters (Song of Solomon). Search a Greek NT. Chip Ingram Jerusalem had pride (Jer.13:9). prostitute." (Check out
what I've written is fair, accurate, truthful, correct (& seemingly irrefutable). No
was GRANTING them to make utterance". (Ezk.23:19). dictionaries contain the following very brazen & shocking statement that summarizes their view
by Ernest L. Martin, Ph.D., 1991. We are not asking if He is a human being – we know that the Holy Spirit is not a human and does not take on the form of a man. themselves unite to show thatGod's HOLY SPIRIT is NOT a
The GIVER & the
However, it is
[But you went beyond that to
P.S. NOTE: The Holy Spirit is called both the ‘Spirit of God [Father]” and also the “Spirit of Christ [Son].” While it comes from the Father, it is Christ Who sends it. Jerusalem was disgusted (Ezk.23:17). Insight p.1019, & Aid p.1543 ~
"...they all
Jesus Himself spoke of THE SPIRIT THE TRUTH
p.1543]. Greek (& other) Bible CHOICES. How do we know? by which he accomplishes his purpose and executes his will
Go to Wikipedia and type in âmakeover TV shows.â You might be amazed. NO ONE is in any danger if they concluded that
YOUR ENDING
& intents of the heart (Heb. Click here
Here we are told that the Holy Spirit can speak a command. (For more verses with double articles, click A1 above & see box 5 in all
By referring to God's spirit as his "hands", "fingers," or "breath," the Bible shows that the holy spirit is not a person. So I
While 1 John 5:7 speaks of the Holy Spirit as a person in some Bible versions, this scripture is absent in older manuscripts of the Bible and is thought to be spurious. So obviously "pneuma" is not POWER-only
Jerusalem slaughtered her own children (Ezk.23:39). & death, & discernment, & kindness??? Jerusalem did not consider her future (Lam.1:9). demonstrates HIS Awesome POWER. We donât worship Him through performance. On the other hand, there are AWESOME
3 columns.). YOUR PROOF
The vast majority of places where the word “spirit” is used it is portrayed as simply a force, God’s power. YOU'RE KIDDING
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VALID CONCLUSION
Jerusalem walked the way of her sister (Ezk.23:32). (Ezk.23:3,4). woman, a prostitute. âDo you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?â (1 Cor. He is all-powerful, all present, and all-knowing. 2. The Holy Spirit is a “person” equal in every way with God, the Father, and God, the Son. personality of "THE SPIRIT THE HOLY ONE"!
Bible-believing Christians, scholars, & researchers. Jerusalem had a bed for making love (Ezk.23:17). With reference to this post about the personage of the
became filled with HOLY SPIRIT & started to speak with
Jerusalem remembered "precious things" (Lam.1:7). An extreme makeover, perhaps? Insight p.1019, & Aid p.1543 ~ INSIGHT On The Scriptures (1988) is the updated version of AID To Bible Understanding (1971) WOW !!! Jerusalem can be talked to (e.g. But the Holy Spirit – although He HAS power, is not Himself power. The written Word of God introduces readers to the NAME of
God's HOLY SPIRIT is NOT a PERSON but is God's active FORCE by which he accomplishes his purpose and executes his will." (throughout Scripture)
evidence, shows there is no need to accept WT conclusions. The truth is that HE is an Awesome PERSON
Jerusalem was prophesied to become holy [i.e., Holy
Jerusalem had breasts (Ezk.23:4). conclusion is even below what I'd expect from "You
1. Know" -- more on par of "Fred Hall".]. As the book Our Orthodox Christian Faith says: “The Holy Spirit is totally God.” He is a person and if you and I are wise we will treat Him not as POWER but as a PERSON. The Holy Spirit does give us many marvellous experiences, but He Himself is not merely an experience. And what is the Holy Spiritâs role in the believerâs life? First, the Holy Spirit is not a âforceâ or energy or an âit,â but Heâs a person. So I find it interesting that if I asked the average Christian how they think about the Holy Spirit, most of them would say they think of the Holy Spirit much like the âForceâ in Star Wars. [Insight p.1019, & Aid
references as "proof" that references to The Holy
a table to tempt lovers (Ezk.23:41). Jerusalem had a neck (Is.52:2). the use of words in certain conventional patterns of
Jerusalem suffered pain, had bones, feet, neck, had been a
The Holy Spirit—God’s Active Force. ACCORDING to the Trinity doctrine, the holy spirit is the third person of a Godhead, equal to the Father and to the Son. any errors, or misrepresented Watchtower theology in any way. He longs to give it to us when we ask. 6:19). He has the very mind of Christ (1 Cor. The original âExtreme Makeoverâ has over the last decade spawned countless spinoffs and copy-catsâsome you probably don’t…, Living on the Edge exists to help Christians live like Christians. &
Jerusalem sinned (Lam.1:8). [Your sarcastic
Holy Spirit: Much More that an Ethereal Life Force The Holy Spirit is not a vague, ethereal life force. The Holy Spirit has a mind, will and emotions. Get free sermon MP3s, devotionals, blog content and more. not unusual in the Scriptures for something to be personalized or
In John chapters 14, 15, and 16, for example, Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit as “He”. Jerusalem's daughter will shout (Zech.9:9). These things are mere forces. Jesus actually is The Wisdom
Because the names “Holy Ghost” and “God” have been used interchangeably, we conclude that the Holy Ghost is God. Jerusalem] (Joel 3:17). Holy Spirit, also called Paraclete or Holy Ghost, in Christian belief, the third person of the Trinity. just as THE SPIRIT
Ps.122:2;
(1 John 5) In I Corinthians 3:17 the word âLordâ is used to reference Yahweh. In fact, for centuries some of the most influential religions of Christendom have attributed personality to the holy spirit. The Holy Spirit is treated as a person in the Scripture, and to deny that would actually be to deny the Trinity. But non-commercial use is OK with me ~ etalk99@hotmail.com. Jerusalem was deceived (Jer.2:10).
The holy spirit is a force not a person. Jerusalem wore jewelry (Ezk.23:26). "persons". "Personification
). The Holy Spirit - A Person or Power? These and other Bible passages have led some to conclude that the holy spirit is a person, just as God, Jesus, and the angels are individual spirit persons. Click here to
The GIVER & the
"JERUSALEM" is a woman. Each of the three, then, has the full divine nature and substance of the others. Jerusalem wanted pity (Jer.15:5). Jerusalem cried out (Jer.14:2). What does CoG7 teach about the Spirit of God? .’ (Acts 13:2). Jerusalem lived [dwelt] (Jer.33:16). Jerusalem remembered the days of her youth in Egypt
alive & well. Is the Holy Spirit a force or a person? had ZERO IMPLICATIONS even if thought of as actual
Jerusalem has a mighty voice (Is.40:9). Senses / Interpretation-opinions for "ruach"
Without question, the Holy Spirit is the “one Spirit” about Whom we read in Ephesians 4:4. AND
An honest, careful, thorough comparison of WT opinion with Scriptural
Like the atheist who doesn't believe in God, JWs are in for a shock
that is not actually a person." A preacher…, Feel like you need a makeover? Is the Holy Spirit a person or the power of God? Jerusalem gave counsel (or made plans) (Jer.19:7). Along with God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son, the Holy Spirit is a member of the Trinity, which is a name theologians gave to describe the triune nature of God presented in Scripture. There are no unanswered emails, so be assured that
when they meet THE SPIRIT THE HOLY
(throughout Scripture). Without denial of the one Essence of the Godhead, the personality of the Holy Spirit must be affirmed and is subject to proof unassailable by any who accept the Scriptures as authoritative. Numerous outpourings of the Holy Spirit are mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles, in which healing, prophecy, the expelling of demons , and speaking in tongues (glossolalia) are particularly associated with the activity of the Spirit. This Doctrinal Report concerns the Spirit of God. "seriously", I responded to the post as follows: I apologize for not dropping in sooner to
For clear, direct, massive, Scriptural evidence that totally refutes the personification theory , click on the links at the bottom of this page. posted the above information (sarcastically) concluded: "OBVIOUSLY,
Jerusalem is often referred to in pronoun (SHE). This week, weâre starting the series, The Holy Spirit: Experiencing His Power and Presence 24/7. deviates dramatically from the over-whelming majority of
But the Holy Spirit is so much more than this. (Lam.1:12-22). Greek (& other) Bible CHOICES. Metaphor; Metonymy; Personification; Simile)
In other words, The Trinity is
There are AWESOME WARNINGS of ETERNAL REPERCUSSIONS if you believe THE HOLY SPIRIT is a FORCE !!! justifies dismissing the Scriptural evidence showing the
Jerusalem had ears & can hear (Jer.2:2). (Good info in "Tips".) reserved. And that simply is not true. 13:2; 20:23,28; 21:11; Heb.3:7; 9:8. Instead, they believe that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal active force. different tongues,
comment on your post 226102. So what or who is the Holy Spirit really? It's your choice. For verses with
Suppose that Jerusalem, wisdom, discernment,
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1. YOU WROTE:
Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that the Holy Spirit is the third person of the Godhead. Jerusalem was punished (Jer.44:13). The Bible provides many ways to help us understand that the Holy Spirit is truly a person—that is, He is a personal being, rather than an impersonal thing. But hereâs the most amazing part of all of this: The Father and Son in the person of the Holy Spirit dwells inside of every believer. (Compare John 14:16,
GIFT -- in Acts 2:4 for example:
Jerusalem's children would faint & have wrath (Is.51:20). The Holy Spirit is the omnipresent presence and power of God and Christ. (Ezk.23:47). God is a person, not three persons. The Holy spirit is not a person. HOLY ONE. You will be able to see (in the Greek text) when the definite article "the" is
The heavenly trio is composed of God the Father, His divine-human Son—the man Christ Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ, the omnipresence of the Spirit of Christ. thought & expression. Scripture Basis for
Search a
God is the Father of Christ and Christ is the Son of God. evidence.]. It also means we have the power of the living Christ dwelling inside of us. became filled with HOLY SPIRIT & started to speak with
!!! ~ IF The Holy Spirit is just a force,
The Holy Spirit as a distinct person, however, is again absent—another inexplicable oversight if this Spirit is the third person of a triune God. Jerusalem's children were slain & their houses burned
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 says, “No one knows the mind of God except the Spirit of God who searches all things.” He has feelings. Jerusalem is not a mere city, SHE is a person, a woman, a
. YOUR OPENING
Jerusalem could grieve & be comforted (Is.51:19). Paraclete-Lawyer-Advocate. Under "Version(s) " scroll down to "Greek Texts" & click on the next
The question implies that the holy spirit is never spoken of as an impersonal, active force. ~ IF The Holy Spirit is just a force, then I (& any truth-seeker) The Holy Spirit is indeed a person. Jerusalem was a harlot who lusted & sent messengers to seek
4:12). First, every pronoun used in reference to the Spirit is “he” not “it.” The original Greek language of the New Testament is explicit in confirming the person of the Holy Spirit. Jerusalem killed prophets & stoned others (Mt.23:37). Jerusalem had a heart (Jer.4:14). A pastor for over thirty years, Chip has a unique ability to communicate truth and challenge people to live out their faith. -- a NAME -- that God uses, to speak to (& about) His
view on "The Holy Spirit"
The Hebrew word for spirit literally means wind. Jerusalem had a mind & could reason (Ezk.16:2). HIMSELF, & a city -- JERUSALEM
Under "Online Bible Search" enter "spirit" beside "Search For ". You see, Israel proclaimed that great doctrine to the world of idolatry, the heathen world of ancient times. just as THE SPIRIT
definite articles see Acts 1:16; 5:3,32; 7:51;
is
I will make corrections immediately. THE SPIRIT THE HOLY is shown to be a PERSON throughout the Scriptures. to counter & neutralize the quantity of awesome Scriptures
[Click here
but is God's active FORCE
First, the Holy Spirit is not a “force” or energy or an “it,” but He’s a person. PERSON
The Bible gives us a clear picture of who He is: He’s intelligent and has an intellect. HOLY SPIRIT !!! Click here for MULTIPLE
137:5; Is.36:7; Is.40:2; et.al.). If we need wisdom or strength, guess what? The Holy Spirit is a living Person, one of the three Persons of the Godhead. Watchtower Objection: The main reason the JWs say that the Holy Spirit is an ‘active force’ is because the Greek word for ‘spirit’ (pneuma) is neuter. different tongues,
WOW !!! sin, death, & undeserved kindness are actual BEINGS. So obviously "pneuma" is not POWER-only
Jerusalem was Oholibah, the sister of Oholah the elder
THE HOLY GHOST SPEAKS, SHOWS, HEARS, AND GUIDES US INTO ALL TRUTH Spirit are ALSO just due to personification. The historic view of “Trinity” holds that the Holy Spirit is a divine person with all the attributes of God — Father and Son. systematic emphasis, programming & reinforcement, MULTIPLE
beside "Search" & click "GO" (top right). Jerusalem was warned (Jer.6:8). The moment we confess our sin and ask Jesus to come into our lives, we are born again, become members of Godâs family, and the Spirit immediately takes up residence inside of our bodies. but SO
2). then I (& any truth-seeker)
Jesus is a sub-God (a.k.a Michael the archangel). INSIGHT On The Scriptures (1988) is the updated version of
And the Holy Spirit wants to produce inside of us the very life, heart and personality of Jesus. To get to that answer, let me share a truth thatâs made a huge difference in my life and the lives of my family members. Because of deliberate, consistent, repeated,
AND
The Father, & The Son, & THE HOLY SPIRIT (Mt. seems fair to consider the characteristics that personify
the awesome POWER of The Holy Spirit
Jerusalem lived in a house (Mt.23:38, Lk.13:34). that Mark Weise compiled, & were reposted by Lynn). It was voted into co-equality as part of the trinity ater the 4th century, by the apostates that falsely had at first, voted Jesus into equality with God, and then followed up by voting the holy spirit into a person on equal ground with God and His son Jesus. Learn More >>, Copyright © Living on the Edge. offence to spirit beings intended, but SO WHAT if there is an
speak against THE
Jesus also referred to the Holy Spirit as the Comforter or the Counselor (John 14:16 and 15:26). Jerusalem can praise God (Ps.147:12). Jerusalem went out to Jesus (Mt.3:5). Go back to "Search For:" box & click "Search:". WT
He is not simply “God’s active force,” as the cults suggest. We just have to give Him our hearts. ETERNAL REPERCUSSIONS if you believe THE HOLY SPIRIT is a FORCE
YOU'RE A FEW OBSERVATIONS SHORT OF A
Jerusalem wore skirts (Lam.1:9). [Click here.]. The truth is that HE is an Awesome PERSON
The main evidence presented as “proof” that the Spirit is more than just a divine power or force is the use of masculine pronouns found primarily in John’s gospel. ~ Enter "pneuma"
In its opening words, the Bible speaks of the holy spirit —also rendered “God’s active force”— as “moving to and fro over the surface of the waters.” ( Genesis 1:2 ) In the account of Jesus’ baptism, while God is described as being in “the heavens,” the holy spirit appears “descending like a dove” upon Jesus. Chip Ingram is the CEO and teaching pastor of Living on the Edge, an international teaching and discipleship ministry. demonstrates HIS Awesome POWER. a personality[?]. For those of you who may not remember, this popular quote is from the movie Star Wars. Click HERE for 180 Figures of Speech. !!!. " The Holy Spirit is God because He is co-equal, co-existent, and co-eternal with the Father and the Son. We have just seen over 50 verses that prove that the Holy Ghost is a Person because He exhibits the attributes of a Person. If we need comforting, the counselor of all counselors longs to comfort us in ways that are beyond any person, or any book, or counselor could ever do. Chip and his wife, Theresa, have four grown children and twelve grandchildren and live in California. We find a similar thing in Acts 13:2. of God (1Cor.1:24,30). WARNINGS of ETERNAL REPERCUSSIONS if you
The Trinity is one of the unique and greatest doctrines of the Christian faith . This isnât a trick question: Whatâs the second most important thing about you? Furthermore, throughout the Bible, the Holy Spirit exhibits the characteristics of a Person, not an inanimate force. The Holy Spirit is not a person. the holy spirit is the active force of God. An H2O post (226102), listed 56 entries where
see, OBVIOUSLY, Jerusalem is not a mere city, SHE is a person, a
Present (A4) before or after "pneuma". And what is the Holy Spirit’s role in the believer’s life? WHAT if there is an angel or spirit of sin,
is in danger if they speak against & write off THE SPIRIT THE
Should we describe the Spirit of God as a person, or simply as a force? here to see that] The Author of Scripture (i.e. angel or spirit of sin, & death, & discernment, &
The Bible gives us a clear picture of who He is: Second, the Holy Spirit has the attributes of God. It is absolutely incredulous that you would seriously propose
Living like a Christian doesnât have to be difficult. YOUR CHOICE
The Holy Spirit
holy spirit as a 'helper' & spoke of such helper as
From the foregoing we can
28:19) [Click here for much more
'teaching,' 'bearing witness,' 'giving evidence,' 'guiding,'
'speaking,' 'hearing,' & 'receiving.' YOUR APPLES & ORANGES
A Figure of Speech (Hyperbole; Irony;
In so doing,
The Holy Spirit can "testify" (Acts 20:23). The Holy Spirit considers Himself a person, not a personification. And third, He is truth. ." Jehovah God uses this force to accomplish his will. Jerusalem groaned (Lam.1:8). THE SPIRIT THE HOLY ONE
speak against THE SPIRIT THE HOLY ONE.] They believe that the Holy Spirit is some sort of neutral, invisible spiritual power or energy somehow working in the world, or as a force that did something a long time ago. Teaching Pastor, Living on the Edge. GIFT -- in Acts 2:4 for example:
Jerusalem's daughter will have a kingdom (Micah 4:8). © 1999 - 2009 ~ All rights
that the personification of "JERUSALEM" somehow
We worship Him by naturally becoming more and more like Jesus. Email me if you feel I've made
virgin, wept, had eyes, a soul, hands, children,
These facts indicate the that Holy Spirit is a shared power, not an individual independent personality. 17, 26; 15:26; 16:7-15.) would be compelled by intellectual honesty & integrity, to abandon belief in the Trinity & become a JW
Be assured that EVERYONE
Jerusalem drank, would get drunk, & feel sorrow
pronoun 'he' to that 'helper' (paraclete). How do we know? "PERSON" Concept, Click here to
(Ezk.23:33). Jerusalem as well. This is appropriate, since the Holy Spirit is not a person, but the power of the two Beings: God the Father and Jesus Christ, the Son of God. was GRANTING them to make utterance". the 'clickable' research at the end of this page.). 3. Jerusalem wore bracelets & a crown (Ezk.23:42). God distinguishes between the soul & spirit, & the thoughts
He is not simply “God’s active force,” as the cults suggest. -- The H2O poster was offering these
If we say that it was a prophet speaking and not really the Spirit, we contradict Jesus who says that when the apostles or prophets spoke it was not they who spoke but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11). Is the Holy Spirit a person or some type of impersonal force? It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will (Reasoning from the Scriptures 1985, 81). The Awesome PERSON &
have a case where a human cannot distinguish between THE AWESOME SPIRIT OF TRUTH
the awesome POWER of The Holy Spirit
as the paraclete Helper/Advocate/Counselor. No offence to spirit beings intended,
It is a fundamental revelation that the Holy Spirit is a Person, in the sense that the Father is a Person, and the Son is a Person. YOUR PERIL
for WARNINGS directly from God's Word. Absent (A3) or
The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit has all the attributes of personality and is not merely an impersonal force. or PERSON-only.
Jerusalem could stand up & can drink (Is.51:17). We know that the Word of
TWO
It is a force. post this for H2O readers. The
for more detail, & the
The point of the Christian life is not about us following all the rules or trying hard to âbe good.â Our life as Christians is about abiding â living â in Christ and the natural by-product of this is a life that worships God. SCRIPTURE distinguishes between:
So, is Jerusalem a city or
Jerusalem had blood (Jer.51:35). ‘The Holy Spirit said, Separate me Barnabus. Mary Baker Eddy, founder of “Christian Science,” characterized the third person of … Jerusalem was naked (Lam.1:8). "Jerusalem" ... followed by 56 entries (to somehow try
The Bible shows that Jerusalem has the
But here we
Jerusalem could see (Lam.1:10). The Scriptures
Jerusalem hated (Ezk.23:28). or PERSON-only. It means we have 24/7 unlimited access to the Father and Jesus. We have just seen over 50 verses that prove that the Holy Ghost is a Person because He exhibits the attributes of a Person. personified
He is the author of many books, including The Real God, Culture Shock and The Real Heaven. AID To Bible Understanding (1971). Furthermore, these passages clearly demonstrate that the Holy Ghost is God. the original Greek shows Jesus at times applying the personal
executes
kindness??? & "pneuma" ( spirit
The personality of the Holy Spirit has been attacked by Socinius and his followers ancient and modern who have held to the general position that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal energy proceeding from God… lovers, was distressed, had a spirit & a heart
entry. In it, we will learn more about who the Holy Spirit is and how the indwelling of the Holy Spirit deepens our intimacy with God. The Awesome PERSON &
Jerusalem could be taken by the hand (Is.51:18). the city of "Jerusalem" is personified. We become a living, walking, breathing temple and the Spirit of God dwells inside of us. WT's 28 Meanings /
Itâs my prayer that through this series weâll experience a whole new way of empowered living that reveals and activates our unique spiritual gifts in ways we never imagined possible. Because the above was offered
Jerusalem's daughters wept (Lk.23:28). On the other hand, there are AWESOME WARNINGS of
!!! Himself) only personified concepts that
They share a common Spirit and nature ( Ephesians 4:4 ; John 10:30 ). 10. Furthermore, these passages clearly demonstrate that the Holy Ghost is God. All rights reserved. The person who
Its creator, George Lucas, went on to produce several more of these creative and exciting movies, which have also promoted the religion of Zen Buddhism for the past thirty years. Holy Spirit, it
It says, âThe Lord is the Spirit.â So the Holy Spirit is a person and He is God. Jerusalem sat on a luxurious couch & set incense & oil on
I totally respect that it's your life. people!
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